CDC: Raw Milk Much More Likely to Cause Illness
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Why in the world would you want to drink raw milk? That is the reason for pasteurization. With all of the unknowns in our food chain, this is playing roulette. The trade off for nutrients is pretty much canceled out by the threat of sickness. Just one man's opinion.
These numbers are unfairly stacked against raw milk. They never remove cases initially attributed to raw milk but never proven to be linked as in the case of Organic Pastures in CA. In addition, this includes cheese cases where many times the cheese is not being produced by licensed facilities. If they would remove the bias and just report the proven cases, I'd believe them. I've been drinking raw milk for six years from a licensed dairy. Not worried.
Raw Milk Myth Buster 1 - Organic Pastures 2006 Raw Milk E. coli Outbreak was caused by Spinach
Myth:
Organic Pastures and the Weston A. Price Foundation continue to repeat that the 2006 E. coli O157:H7 Raw Milk Product Outbreak was caused by Spinach.
Fact:
- 2006 Organic Pastures outbreak, illness onsets ranged from 9/6 to 9/24
- 5 patients had definite exposure to raw milk or raw milk products produced by Organic Pastures; the 6th patient denied drinking Organic Pastures milk but his family routinely consumed OP raw milk.
2 raw whole milk
2 raw skim milk
1 raw colostrum
- 5 patients with culture confirmation were PFGE matches to each other. Final report describes the PFGE patterns as “new to the PulseNet database” and they “differed markedly from the patterns of the concurrent E. coli O157:H7 outbreak strain associated with spinach consumption.”
- 4 patients reported consuming leafy salad greens of any kind
- 4 patients reported consuming lettuce
- 1 patient consumed bagged spinach on two occasions at restaurants
- 1 patient consumed bunched spinach (not bagged Dole)
- 2 patients consumed alfalfa sprouts
- 1 patient consumed ground beef
- No common restaurants
- No other common exposures
Reference:
The California Department of Public Health said 10 samples collected from Organic Pasture's calf area were positive for E. coli O157:H7, and two were a genetic match for the outbreak strain that infected five children and made them ill -- three very ill with potentially fatal hemolytic uremic syndrome. Because relatively few people drink raw milk, the fact that all of these children did -- and had no other common exposures to the same foods or animals -- is very strong evidence that Organic Pastures raw milk was the likely source of their infections.
Organic Pastures Dairy E. coli O157:H7 Raw Milk Product Outbreak 2006
Its time to just get over it. The 2006 E. coli outbreak was caused by OP raw milk. For goodness sake, it it had been spinach, I would have sued the spinach grower, Dole, and not OP.
Mary, I think you are talking about the 2011 Organic Pastures Outbreak. Here is a partial link to some information:
I understand that the final report on the 2011 outbreak will be out in teh next few weeks.
I was talking about 2011. As I understand it, no ecoli was found in the milk in the possesion of the victims. No ecoli was found in any of the Organic Pastures products. Even if it was found in a calf pen, I still thinks it's a stretch.
Regardless, anytime ecoli is "linked" to a dairy but not found in the products or on the facility, the dairy still seems to be presumed guilty. If they can't prove it was a dairy, in my opinion, those numbers should be removed from the statistics. Circumstantial evidence doesn't cut it with me.
The issue is in raw milk Campylobacter, E. coli O157:H7,Salmonella and other pathogens cause foodborne illness. Pasteurization is the most effective measure to minimize this risk and cause for foodborne illness.
Another point of consideration is the economic impact created those States allowing the sale of raw milk causing a foodborne outbreaks. Economic impact being; hospitalizations and associated medical costs, State & Federal governmental costs for outbreak investigation, prosecution and court costs, and so on.
These costs are paid by the taxpayer, me for one, so that a few raw milk proponents can have their milk. I say no more and federal law needs to be changed where: an outbreak occurs in States that allow the sell of raw milk through CDC & FDA investigation and found to be the source, that State pays all costs. To include Federal prosecution and associated costs.
The other point of consideration are children who become ill, and those who die. The State, in addition to the parents, both have accountability. Who is looking out for the child who cannot make an informed decision. Is raw milk safe to drink.
Thank you for reading and hope this practice is changed.
3 deaths in 13 years?!!! Those statistics are way better than the deaths caused by the cancer and chronic illnesses we're getting from consuming daily toxic doses of processed oils, soy and corn products. Diabetes, heart disease, cancer could all be lessened by the government telling us the truth about the toxic substances supporting our economy, but will they tell us, no. They're worried about raw milk's 3 deaths over 13 years. Pathetic, really.
Notice Marler's comments about Organic Pastures 2006 contain no evidence but only circumstantial association. It reflects his conviction "bias" that raw milk is always guilty.
G. Wilson: Milk produced for direct consumption is far cleaner than milk produced for pasteurization. I wouldn't drink the latter either.
Alan: Given your ignorance of epidemiology, I recommend you not start your own raw milk dairy. Because the courts, juries and your insurance company will be compensating your unfortunate victims -- many of them likely small children -- based precisely on the overwhelming evidence you dismiss so callously as merely circumstantial.
Why does this (or any other) discussion about raw milk seem to generate enough heat to bring a good-sized teapot to a rolling boil and yet not even mention that, these days, there are other ways to "Pasteurize" something other than partially cooking it, which is precisely what all the raw milk drinkers appear to object to. This "issue" is really just a business opportunity. Why is it not treated as such?
Marco, Only the ignorant resort to name calling and use hyperbole as if it's a certainty. If I am ignorant of epidemiology, (I'm not) it's because I rarely, rarely get sick even though I drink raw milk or perhaps because I drink raw milk. I don't pasteurize my existence, isolate myself, walk around with hand wipes or a can of Lysol, yet somehow I'm often healthy while many around me are sick who do take those precautions.
When contaminants are found in the conventional food system, they always seem to find it in the food or processing equipment. When it comes to raw milk, evidently it doesn't have to be found in the food, in the equipment or even necessarily on the farm. Just because they all drank raw milk, raw milk must be the culprit. Who knows what else they might have eaten in common but we'll never know if the questioning went beyond raw milk or not.
I'm not saying raw milk is never the problem, I just want fair and balanced treatment of these cases.
Alan,
Perhaps you should educate yourself in foodborne infection regardless of source. Emphasis in today's society is disease prevention. This is the subject matter of discussion.
Your comment on whether raw milk or pasteurized milk is cleaner has no merit. You need to focus on whether raw milk might contain a pathogenic bacteria that can cause disease. Whereas, pasteurized milk has been processed to destroy pathogenic bacteria that cause disease.
Hope this helps.
George. Thanks for the suggestion. If you read the pro raw milk literature with an open mind, you'll find that disease prevention is exactly why many of us chose to drink it. Just because you pasteurize bacteria and kill it, doesn't mean the remnants of what's left behind are not harmful. Raw milk produced for direct consumption is much cleaner that milk produced for pasteurization. People drink raw milk in Europe and around the world and seem to do so successfully without the fear mongering that takes place in America.
You should watch "Wild Horses of Mongolia with Julia Roberts." The main food of Mongolians is raw mare's milk. There teeth look as good as Julia's Hollywood smile. There is not a health crisis from drinking raw milk there. Just the opposite.
LOL, as if anyone would believe Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Their only purpose is to eliminate local and small farmed products in favor of agribusinesses with any report they can manufacture. Research who funds them and who benefits from these "reports".